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dollar deficits every year and throw a tantrum if someone suggests that maybe the taxpayers shouldn't keep subsidizing ever last program washington ever dreamed up. they are reckless and ideological approach threatens our very future. and anyone who is serious about solving the problems we face should ignore all of that starting with the president. megyn: meantime some of the president's supporters unleashed and ad blitz targeting key lawmakers reportedly spending close to $300,000 on an ad buy that talks about increasing taxes but leaving spending alone. here is part of that. >> how do we move our country forward and reduce the deficit, by creating jobs and growing our economy not by cutting programs that families rely on most. megyn: join me now is stu varney, who is host of varney & company. and chris stirewalt. you have all the unions unleashing and ad blitz to target the home states of key lawmakers trying to build pressure on them to not agree to any entitlement spending cuts and they are going directly to the american people to sell that message. what do you make of it? >> i
on eliminating waste, increasing efficiency, decreasing the budget deficit, and real focus that we appreciate in northern california on clean energy. for example, moving the state's goal to be 33% clean energy producing. it is my privilege to welcome governor brown to the panel. [applause] >> and to introduce our next panelist, i would like to welcome steve ballmer, senior bp -- vp. >> good morning and thank you. next up is governor hickel lipper -- hickenlooper. he is the serieaal a entreprener each of you have in your respective parts. he became very successful in the brew pub business. he never had a single election not even for stink -- a student council. governor? [applause] in keeping with the discussion, he is keen on innovation and things of that nature. i know that will come out. thank you, governor. >> are we all set? i am from the "mercury news," and we're here because we live in a global cloueconomy. it has altered local economies because so many manufacturing and technology jobs are moving, whether it is a matter of costs for going where the trained work force is. we're fortunate
the city needs, this is not going to solve the city's deficit problems because the deficit problems are endemic. the start of the federal government. it starts with a policy of war. does not come from cabdrivers. what you are doing would have little effect of the budget robin; it will have a devastating effect on those people. i know this will not have no effect on director heinicke, but i will hope that the rest of you will take about this change your mind about what you have already decided to do. thank you very much. [indiscernible] >> hi i am barry [indiscernible] i don't have a whole lot to say because i have already been saying it, and people have been saying the same thing. cabdrivers are some of the lowest paid people here; they may have busy nights, the ones who work the good shifts might make some money but the others have to work this slow shifts; they make around 25,000 here, they stay in the business hoping to get a medallion, and what you guys are doing is taking the money that a career cabdrivers look forward to, they don't get any benefits, they don't get empl
to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. bill: what happens if they don't see a deal? 90% of americans will see a tax hike in 2013. and families that make between $40,000 and $65,000 will have to pay an extra $2,000 to washington, d.c. in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and the nasdaq all trading lower. speaking of that, a new round of violent protests break out in egypt as police fired teargas into the crowds. here are some of those scenes. >> unbelievable. more than 100,000 people flooded into downtown cairo. this time they are protesting the current president martha maccallum and his power grab. they are disillusioned with what he has brought to their country. then you have this happening. police firing teargas. gypt's highest courts refusing to work in protest of morsi's actions. steve harrigan is streaming live from cairo. the protests looked like the unrest we saw in that same square back in 2009 and the arab
trillion deficit and $17 trillion in debt like putting a band-aid on a grenade wound. >> wasn't the choice very clear in the election, republicans said no tax increases and they got a president who said, well have them and they lost seats in the senate. >>guest: they did but they kept the house of representatives and the americans voted if a government with two parties that control different areas of the government. if there is a mandate it is that americans want both sides to get together to compromise, to work out a solution, and i don't think it was by any means endorsement of raising taxes for the sake of raising taxes. that is worst case scenario for republicans. there is another way, and it is closing loopholes and deductions. >> do all republicans know it? you speak to senator chambliss who says i am doing what is best for the country not living with the no tax hike pledge? >>guest: absolutely, senator chambliss, i cannot speak if him personally but most republicans would say there is a better way to fix the deficit and decrease our national debt and that is what negotiation is abou
out of the deficit crisis just by cutting, cutting cutting and we all will have to raise taxes. >> eliot: of all the permutations that you've heard of the ideas being floated around, is there any deal that is likely to be agreed upon that you can vote for at this point ifin time. >> to be very honest, eliot i get a little bit nervous. i get nervous that instead of bringing back the old clinton era tax rates for the wealthyiest people 39.6, there may an way to wiggle out of that, i get nervous when i hear the president and others continue to talk about quote/unquote entitlement reform, which i'm afraid is just another word for cuts in medicare and medicaid, and maybe even social security. you know, in the first two negotiations in 2010 and 2011, the congress cut $900 billion in programs for working people. the wealthy did not contribute one nickel toward deficit reduction. i think now is the time where the democrats and the president have got to stand firm and say excuse me, the middle class is hurting in this terrible recession. the number of people who are in poverty is at an
over the next ten years. that's about 40% of the $4 trillion deficit goal that we have. that's the same thing that simpson-bowles had, 40% revenue. so the only way you can reach that, incidentally, is to allow the rates to go up. just this idea of we're going to take a look at the tax code, change some credits and deductions, you can't come up with enough money. >> so any deal will have to include at least some hike in the tax rate. >> i don't think there's any other way to approach it. that's why the president has taken this position. if we're going to make sure, for example, that we spare families making $250,000 a year or less from any income tax increase, then this idea that we're going to go into the tax code and find $1.6 trillion over ten years becomes almost impossible. we need to protect those middle income families. >> you said today that congress should deal with the fiscal cliff crisis now, but tackle entitlements, the entitlement questions, later. yesterday, senator lamar alexander said the only thing the president has to do to get an agreement from republicans now is in hi
said the deficit and the state of american society. that is exactly right. you can look at questions of the budget and questions of infrastructure and immigration policy but above all education policy because this is the future and we are not talking about physical infrastructure but human infrastructure and joel is someone who has dedicated the most recent phase of his multi phase currier to this and when he is not discovering the best restaurants in brooklyn he is focused on improving a lot of young people in this country. so let me tell you how condi is dedicated to this issue. year-and-a-half i called her up and asked her to do something for me and with me. she said i'm too -- don't even go there. we have bet on many football games. before the end of this conversation you are going to agree to what is going to happen and she said no way. we at the council of foreign relations spend our time working on things like china, mexico, all the judicial foreign policy issues and we've moved our agenda and increasingly focusing on things domestic and what we want to do is a report on educa
on deficit reduction and if they don't they have spending cuts that will go into effect january 1st. both parties are ready to compromise. >> the bottom line is we have to get ready as much as possibpresident in the second term -- >> a key sticking point is what to do about taxes and now they want to raise taxes on the wealthy while republicans done while capping certain reductions. >>> police officers can start applying and at 8:00 a.m. they will begin accepting applications for entry level officers. they must be at least 20 years old and have a valid california driver's license or equivalent. the application will start december 7th and starting salary is 88,000 dollars a year. in the city of antioch, we offer a new incentive to apply to its police force and they are set to apply tomorrow to change the formula for transfers for existing officers. he had a pension of 3% of last year's salary times the number of years they worked for the department. he has 14 vacant positions. >>> and car buffs are hitting show rooms next year. they are in san francisco showcasing 39 auto makers and it is
negotiated deficit reduction changes. it includes expiration of the bush era tax cuts that would effect everyone. expiration of the tax cut around for years can be called a tax increase. the nonpartisan budget office would bring in $1 trillion in ten years. on tap, 1.2 trillion in spending cuts for ten years. $100 billion in first year. half to defense programs. half to nondefense. cbo says going off the cliff would lead to a recession next year. we have fox team coverage tonight. ed henry is trying to read tea leaves on a day of mixed signals from all sides but we begin with mike emanuel on the possibility that g.o.p. lawmakers may put their oath of office above a promise to antitax increase organizer. good evening. >> good evening. the republican sources say they are offering a balanced approach of significant spending cuts and some revenue without boosting tax rates. >> we have been responsible as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again. >> th
. it is still about three times the average deficit under bush. let us go back to the clinton tax era. eileen anywhere between republican and libertarian. up -- yes i am not. i lean anywhere between republican and a libertarian. host: what do you make of republicans up on capitol hill -- to sort of a back off the tax pledge that he took when he ran for senate, saying he would not raise taxes. caller: if we are going to raise taxes my important thing is raising them on everybody. because if they try to strike a compromise where only the rich get taxed, then it gets more progressive. it is not a point to help the budget. we are right to raise taxes, raise them all the way down to where clinton had them. host: senators lindsey gramm represented peter king, talking publicly abandoning the pledge of democrats will talk seriously about entitlement reforms. rest in peace, grover norquist? there are not enough republican tax hikes -- republicans to hike taxes for obama. the left is doing its best to make tax hikes appear to be a foregone conclusion. that is their take on tax hikes. eddie, on our line
no problem. medicaid no problem. i don't know, one trillion deficit no problem. >> markets are falli ining dean. take a look. i don't understand this. attitude. i'm not hearing it from the president. no, first of all, interest rates are low because we have had a weak economy. as far as the debt goes, listen to dean, i'm sure that he believes that the only real problem phafacing the country a the capitol gains. i think we do have a debt problem i think we have a big debt problem. the numbers in the 20s, 30s, look horrifying and we have a huge job and growth problem. i don't understand how taking dividends from 15-43 creates jobs that closes that. >> i don't see spending cuts. it won't matter. the economy collapsed and the housing bubble collapsed. make them pay zero taxes. the search goes inside out. none of it finds that it will create any of those jobs. the government has no choice. >> that is quite an experiment. that you are willing to run with 1 or 2%. from 15 to 25. we are going to taking it from 15 to 30. >> we have been there. >> you are taking the rate on capital which we have the
drug plan that a lot of these republicans voted for, not funded. you have a deficit thattic vides a trillion -- that exceeds a trillion dollars. i don't think any republicans will say what the hell let's just raise taxes because barack obama says so. neil: they are running with tails between leg. >> look at the electeds. >> look, bottom line, i don't like pledges of any kind, you have to be pragmatic in washington both sides, democrats should not make pledges either, they need to come to the table. neil: you don't have to worry, they will not. what is going on on the whole tax thing, and whole norquist thing? main were saying that -- today saying, that this is really about the imploying of grover norquist, he took afence to that in my interview earlier, but that is what is going on, probably more more than that, what do you say? >> first, i ca i have to addrest julie said, almost someone who lives inside of beltway could say that a pledge does not matter, this is a promise, they said while they serve in congress, not a short-term team, they made a promise, where i come from thee,
from this incredible deficit. melissa: i hear you and i agree with you, but that message, feels like by virtue of the last election the rest of the country is not agreeing with that. >> i think time will prove this is right. the president has to look at legacy, he is the worst president in all of american history if the economy continues on a crash course as it is right now. the real opportunity is just presenting itself for folks in the tea party where we can say cutting spending is the only answer. if you tax everybody that obama is talking about taxing, the most you could cut off the deficit is 5%, something insanely small. that will not do anything. the message has to be to cut spending and until that resonates with americans, have to realize the economy will keep declining. melissa: ho huggies is a spendig problem, not a revenue problem? >> the left is always going to try to appeal to the low information voter. so we have to take information, make it really simple, on complicated and communicated in a narrative that can be marketed to the masses of people. if you take the tax in
. this agreement cuts the deficit by a trillion dollars, and it lays the groundwork for much more in the near future. we look forward to the work on the committee to make sure that millionaires and billionaires and corporate jet owners and people who have those yachts who get tax benefits, oil companies who get these huge tax subsidies, that that in the mix of thinking what goes on, that's what this select committee's going to be about. we need to do more for families. the number one job we have as a congress must be creating jobs for the american people. we, there are a number of things we're going to do. senator schumer's going to address that in a few minutes as to what jobs agenda we have. today we made sure america will pay its bills, now it's time to make sure that all americans can bay theirs. senator durbin? >> with this vote of 74-26, we have averted a crisis. america has avoided defaulting for the first time in our history on our national debt. the fears and concerns of americans across the board were considered by this congress, and as a result we've come together on a bipartisan b
1%. median family income is going down. who is better prepared to help us with with deficit reduction? struggling working people or people on top doing well? >> that was answered on november 6th. the proposals will be coming in next week. what changes would you be willing to make to medicare because the republicans, you heard mitch mcconnell, you have to have entitlement reform to the republicans is cuts. that's what their entitlement reform is. would you do anything to medicare at all? >> sure. look, ed, what has to be understood is are we not only the coup try that doesn't care to all people, we pay by far much more per capita for health care than does any other nation. it's a wasteful system. for example, in terms of medicare, republicans demanded as part of medicare part d that the medicare could not negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceutical industry. the v.a. does that. why isn't medicare doing that? furthermore, if we develop efficiencies that save the system money, let's do it. but let us not cut benefits for the elderly or for the poor who are on medicaid. >> fin
puts forward his plan. how is he going to close the other part of that deficit? you know, his proposal right now, the most he can say would raise would be about $68 billion when our deficit last year was $90 billion. what is the president's plan for closing the additional additional $1 trillion worth of deficit? i think that's incumbent on the president to put forward his plan. >> from your standpoint alone, there's no way you see fit in the coming 35 days that you would break that pledge with glove norquist. >> well, thomas, let's use a couple numbers here. even with this measly economic growth we've seen the last three years, revenue at the federal government has increased $344 billion per year. if we just return to a normal economy that returns about 18.5%, that would increase revenue an additional over $400 billion per year, that's $750 billion of revenue per year through economic growth. and the president, his proposal would raise 1/10 of that but would put at risk the economic growth and that $750 billion. so -- >> sir, with all due respect, though -- >> counterproductive. >> tha
rate will necessarily go up. we talk about debt and deficit in this chamber, if we remember less than 12 years ago, 12 years ago we hit a budgetary surplus of $258 billion. meaning that we were taking in $258 billion more in each year than we were spending. how was that possible? it was made possible by having created 22 million private sector jobs in the previous eight years. . what was the policy then? the policy was to invest in the american economy, in the american people, in education, in scientific research, and infrastructure. so i think the lessons from our most recent past are very instructive today as to what we should be doing in washington to promote growth. the gentleman from california spoke of a plan i was working on, that's a $1.2 trillion investment in rebuilding the roads and bridges of america. that plan, advanced by the new america foundation, would create 27 million private sector jobs in five years. the first year alone, over five million jobs which would reduce the current employment rate from where it is today to 6.4% and in the second year, 5.2%. now public in
cut the budget, if we cut the deficit and raise taxes, i don't think that's the worst thing in the world. as warren buffett has been saying for the last 24 hours, are you really going to turn down a good investment opportunity just because the tax rates are a little higher in we're talking about a minor 4 percentage point increase in the upper end of the tax rate here. it's not life or death. you know, cutting the deficit and raising taxes, if they can't agree, which congress has shown themselves inability to agree. if they're not going to agree, maybe it's not the worst thing in the world for tax rates to go up and for the deficit to be cut. i think that could result in a big economic boom. >> wow. >> and then, let's say two weeks after we go over the cliff, after the 1st of january, they then cut attacks for everybody -- >> but here's the problem with that notion. it's not fine. but, john, it's not fine because a lot of ordinary middle class people -- >> that's the problem. >> -- are trying to spend money at christmas and they're deeply anxious about what's going to happen
, michelle, why is this such a crisis? we're going to have about $.5 trillion in deficits in 2013. is that a crisis? for god's sake, we're finally doing something to address our debt and deficits. that should be great news. i'll tell you why gold might be down today. why is the market rallying when gold, oil, and copper are down? the only tentity borrowing all this money is the government. that's why gold is going down. guess what? don't worry about it. they're going to punt on this like they have every other time. >> are you as pessimistic? are they going to punt? what do you do? >> in the short-term, you have to be careful. these are unknowable things. it's a very fluid situation, as you identified. somebody gives us some happy talk. this market goes straight up. i think gold is giving perhaps a false signal there won't be qe-4. i believe there will be. it's just a matter of time. this is going to take time to implement. we're not going to put all these changes in place january 1. there's no grand bargain out there that's going to cover all these things at once. it's going to be
it will reduce the deficit. not because it's good for the economy. he has a totally noneconomic reason for it and he's serious, we'll tell you what it is next. >> new at 10, warren buffett who has been begging the government to raise taxes on rich people like himself, well, instead of writing a check, he says, we should tax the rich because it will, quote, raise thh morale in the middle glass. he's serious. and all raising taxes on the wealthy may do, the big story of the day, president obama's campaign, holding more meetings on the fiscal cliff instead of real talks with politicians who have to decide this thing. and going on the road and selling the campaign harry reid says no cuts, democrats have cut spending and entitlements already. >> remember, we've already done more and billion dollars worth of cuts and we've already done that and we need to get credit for at that and these negotiations that take place. >> and the president's position, no more cuts, we're talking about it all with this company. sandra smith is here, and charles payne and as always on the floor of the new york
debt today and deficit because in many ways it is in fact the spreading cancer. i call it that because occupation with a well diagnosed cancer, we know it's there and we know that it will spread and we know it can do. but we are now not operating as a prudent patient. too many americans are in fact choosing to ignore it. we are in some form of a state of denial. because if you think you are causing a crisis coming to americans have a false sense of security that everything is okay. there is no decisive action required today. we feel we can deal with it tomorrow. of course come in either of these two beliefs are true. what is certainly true as the federal government seems quite able to add $1 trillion each year to the national do. many people believe we can do this indefinitely. too many people actually believe this can go on for a decade after decade. they think so because one of the facts is as a country we can currently borrow money. my note to say 1.7%. but in fact last week it went down under 1.6%. that is kind of a happy state of affairs. we do not deserve to be able to borrow tha
it into the unified budget to mass of the overall deficit. the trust fund will run -- to mask the overall deficit. it was a nice tax breaks for low income seniors. that was stealing from that trust fund. we call it the social security fund. there is no trust in my estimation. host: this is from the huffy to post a business section. earlier this week-- huffington post business section. older americans are in the cross hairs. when congress returns for a lame-duck session, stocks will keep up -- talks will heat up and there may be reinvigorated discussions on a grand bargain. the last time that happens, president obama considered a proposal favored by republicans to extend the eligibility for medicare to 67. as a guy who turned 65, your thoughts about extending the eligibility for medicaid to 67. guest: if you are younger, you are not thinking about it. i think it would be prudent to do that for the health of the country in the future of the people. obviously, if you are at or near 65, you cannot do it. the thing i wonder is, as part of this whole situation, why is there no effort to really, really
a long-term deficit reduction deal. grover norquist was on cnn on friday responding to senator chambliss' comments. let's listen to what grover norquist had to say. [video clip] >> the commitment he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was a commitment to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and to reform government and not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, need to have that conversation with the people of georgia. he talks about my plan to increase debt, the only plan i think i supported is the paul ryan deal, which reduces the deficit, pays down the debt, does not raise taxes, and it is a written plan that senator chambliss actually voted for. so i think they caught him on a tv station and he said something scraps that did not make sense. >> have you thought about changing the pledged in any way? >> again, i cannot change the pledge, because t it is,o me. it is not like people are promising this to me. >> it was your group. everybody associates the pledge
" and he joins me now. thanks for being with us now. we appreciate it. you compare the deficit to an insurance policy. you say it doesn't make you any richer in the short-term, but in the long-term, it is helpful. i want to actually put your statements up. you say let's agree to keep deficits very high for at least another year. and then let's buy an insurance policy against that debt crisis when we can really afford it. so lots of republicans and democrats out there would disagree greatly with you. say that america's ability to pay its debt is really important. how would you respond to them? >> right. i do think that there's a thing that's taken place in washington deficit reduction will stimulate us to enormous growth in 2013. the fact is what deficit reduction is, is tax increases and spending cuts, both of which take economic activity out of the economy. so this really is extremely similar to insurance. if i buy, say, flood insurance. what i'm doing is i'm paying a short premium in the short-term, to protect my house in the long-term. that's exactly what deficit reduction i
that was as efficient we would have no deficit given the baby boom. >> >> it is actually called medicare. with the supreme act the of of, so all of these same of, so all of these same this but our budget problems will be done. >> cell it better dismantle. it is incredible. it is a rejection of theory and evidence. [laughter] that is pretty impressive. >> host: look at the interface between medical costs and the budget. the idea we have to have commissions like bowles simpson with the shares between spending and so forth. why don't we look at that in the eye? >> the riyal abbate of merck can -- american. the insurance industry is very influential. if you take one provision but to provide for egyptian dragon's for medicare. >> if anybody is serious about but we are they talked about i think health care reform should. medicare for all is where we should go broke teach teetwenty three. we had this plan is in an good to get to the effects of the single carrier system we should have a public option. then the public our action is killed. >> but right now is to establish the principle of univers
, the u.s. situation with respect to our deficit and debt is a national security liability. we need our senior leadership to take it on. we have an opportunity to do so, a requirement to do so. the foundation of national power is ultimately economic. in terms of global influence, in terms of the ability to support a military, the economic is foundational. i think in the u.s. we have both an opportunity and requirement to get our house in order. i believe what hundreds of tatars and 435 members of the house will step up -- what 100 senators and 435 members of the house will step up. >> so we have america under control because of the amount of treasuries? >> [indiscernible] our position to the nine states is very, very decisive to strengthen our relationship. there is no intention for us to use this economic relationship and a different context. we are very satisfied. that's all. >> let me open up to the floor. with four microphones around the room. fast.going to go i will call on people whose names i don't know. but that is josh rogan from "the cable." >> thank you for your time today. i
that medicare and medicaid are the main drivers of our deficit. and i know we have seen this morning also several editorial writers indicate the same, that it is important that we put these drivers of the deficit on the table and include them as part of any agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. as the speaker said, we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table, something that we didn't do two years ago during the debt ceiling negotiation. we still believe that it is most important for us to address the economic situation in this country where so many people are out of work. and that's why we take the position and believe strongly that increasing marginal rates is income tax rates is not the way to produce growth and to put people back to work. but we have not seen any good faith effort on the part of this administration to talk about the real problem that we're trying to fix. i'm told that mr. bowles, as some of us will meet with him later today, had said earlier this morning that it's been no serious discussion by the white house on entitlements, on medicare and medicaid. this
by which additional deficit reduction over a ten-year period would occur. and that process was after the trillion dollars was whacked off -- which it already has be been -- that a super committee of six from the house and six from the senate would deliberate and a majority vote of that committee of 12 could determine additional deficit reduction that would apply over the next ten years. and to give a little incentive for that super committee not to deadlock, the process of sequestration was set up which, in effect, was this meat cleaver that in a nondiscriminate way was going to drop a meat ax approach of another half trillion out of defense and a half trillion out of non-defense discretionary, which nobody wanted. and of which was never contemplated that it was going to go into effect, because the effects were going to be so onerous that surely people of goodwill could come together on a 12-member committee and not deadlock but instead at least one would provide the majority, even if it were only 7-5 out of the 12, because the alternative was so unpalatable. and, of course, we know
approach to reducing the nation's deficit. let's bring in our panel. mary katharine ham editor-at-large of hot air.com and fox news contributor. peter mirijanian former advisor to the clinton-gore and gore-lieberman campaigns. when the president arrives at the white house to speak, he will have people behind him, ordinary americans who reached out to the white house and want their $2,000 middle class tax cut preserved. republicans are saying this is essentially a campaign stunt, a campaign appearance kind of event of the he won the election. he should get on the business of governing. what do you say? >> well, one quick observation, jon. i think what you're seeing, what i think is interesting the first social media presidency. this administration using technology and using social media to advance their agenda. but look, all presidents do this. george w. bush after his re-election famously said he has now the political capital he intend to use. so going to the public and going sort of over the head of congress is something democratic and republican presidents always do what they
box and reduce the deficit, they spent it. he has no savings in his budget. he wants to count savings because he is not in iraq anymore. they threw him out. that is why he is not in iraq anymore. connell: we will obviously come back to this over and over again. grover norquist, thank you. dagen: we will stay on the topic of warren buffett and taxes. should the cut off the $500,000 not $250,000 as the president wants. would that ease some of the burden and pain of higher taxes? >> on one level it would, of course. raising that threshold from $250,000 to $500,000. the buffet idea maybe release a little bit of pain, but does nothing to address the extortions that he is talking about. huge distortions. 160,000 pages of distortions in the tax code. you were talking about a tiny, tiny improvement. i will take it, sure. we are getting distracted on this one. dagen: connell was talking about a minimum tax on the wealthy. he starts out $1 billion a year. 30%. a good idea in the abstract? then he starts talking about his brother in. those are multi billionaires, dude. >> i mean, i think these a
it and they are very, very, very loathed to break it. and that's made it impossible to reach a deficit reduction deal, until now. "the new york times" has an article in which republican after republican after republican goes on the record by name dismissing his pledge and his power. peter king says a pledge is good at the time you sign it. in 1941 i would have voted to declare war on japan. but each congress is a new congress and you can't have a rule that you're never going to raise or lower taxes. i don't want to rule anything out. senator of georgia said, i'm frankly not concerned about the norquist pledge. senator john mccain said fewer and fewer people are signing this "pledge." it's actually a pledge, but any way. senator coburn called it "a tortured vision of tax purity." and it did you want end there in that article. bill crystal said this. >> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell when one person says, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer. >> a calmist at the national review wrote, as a matter of
will not increase the federal deficit. they said it will reduce it slightly. ten years slightly and 20 years significantly. it's complete bs to say that this has any deficit implications. it doesn't. this is just a smoke screen. it's a red herring. it's another excuse for not doing what needs to be done. the american people have spoken. the central issue in the campaign was not only tax fairness but raising taxes on the top 2% as a means to help us balance -- get rid of the deficit and eat into the debt. and the american people have said, yes, that's one of the components of the deal. so this is just another smoke screen. it's a delaying tactic. i truly believe that if they keep this up they will pay for it and they will pay for it big time, certainly in the election of 2014. but the sad part is, the nation and people can't wait. we've got to resolve this debt because if we do so, rev, will cause the economy to explode. we will see a resurge in investment, good things happening for the economy. >> congressman ellison, with all of that at stake and clear from every expert that we've heard, it
students have contributed $4.50 billion out of their pockets toward deficit reduction. we have had things squeezing us at different levels. we are facing the biggest threat from what is called a sequester, the fiscal cliff. one part of the fiscal cliff arc across the board -- across the board -- are across-the-board spending cuts. they will be cutting housing and food safety and the entire range of domestic programs. for education, that will be head start, which is in the department of health and human services. there will be a $4.80 billion cut, the largest education cut in the history of the country. that will move us that courts whether the goal is -- move us backwards. our biggest challenge in the short-term is to work together with groups like the urban league and the national council of la raza to come up with a balanced approach to deficit reduction and ask people who can pay a little bit more to do so without balancing the budget on the backs of children and students and working people and low income people. a couple of quick things i want to say. we are also facing increasing enr
to fix this borrowing debt deficit issue in the book, vice president biden's chief of staff, talking about the economic crisis in 2011, that's exactly what is going on. there is so much evidence that it is the biggest future. we are on the path becoming europe and greece. you just can't keep borrowing money. there is a stunning and fiction in this country, and we need some sort of we need some serious intervention. in the book, what i attempt to do is take people to the presidents and leaders and tell you exactly because of the luxury of time and my publisher, simon & schuster, i declined to get the meeting notes to get the exact detail to interview president obama and speaker boehner and the key players in this. i just want to take one quick snapshot from what happened that we didn't know about, which is critical. when the cops pull up less when the president was upset, he called the congressional leaders on a saturday morning at 11:00 o'clock a.m. the democratic and republican leaders were trying to work out their own deal. harry reid, the democratic leader, said to the president,
're saying is we don't want to cut the deficit too fast. now when it comes to the fiscal deficit -- >> i want to transition you to the other hot topic that we've been following. it's senator john mccain and his stance or lack thereof now against ambassador susan rice. let me play what he said earlier. i believe it was november 14th and his new line of words, i guess, regarding her possible nomination for secretary of state. let me play it back to back. >> we will do whatever's necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. >> she could conceivably get your voros for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and opportunity to explain herself and her position. >> lois, what's the scoop there there and what's behind this change? >> i think that john mccain is a very, very smart politician, and, you know, a smart politician doesn't want to box in the opponent like he tried to do with president clinton so that president clinton runs out and nominates her. i think everybody needed to kind of cool off a little bit and if he backs off, the
down deficit. the campaign promise is to cut the deficit in half. he said he would do it by focusing at the center of his proposal, going to be entitlement reform. we have seen none of that. more than four years. >> bret: interesting op-ed by bill archer and chris cox in "wall street journal" saying that the real outlay is $86 trillion of unfunded liabilities. obligations when you include all of the federal government, what it owes. that is obviously dwarfs the $16 trillion in debt we hold. >> which raises the question why are republicans allowing the entire debate to be about taxes? and about the war among republicans over holding the line on the norquist pledge or not. when what obama is proposing on raising the rates on the 2% is a triviality. it will reduce the deficit from $11.01 trillion to $1. $1.02 trillion. eight cents on the dollar. nothing. lunch money. it's rounding error. yet that is all the debate we are hearing. obama understands this. he is trying to, he is not trying to fix our fiscal issues and problems. he's trying to destroy the republicans. by insisting that ther
to the voters that mitt romney did not. obviously, mitt romney had a huge deficit with african-american voters, hispanic voters and women voters, so i think these potential candidates are trying to map it out. >> david corn, when george w. bush ran, he got such a quick surge in the polls that no one was able to stop him. is jeb bush that guy this time? is he the one that if he makes it clear he's running, others will decide not to? >> you know, i still wonder if two words come to mind. too soon. i mean, the george w. bush presidency is still not held in high esteem amongst many voters who still blame bush for the economic downturn at the end of his administration that has carried us to this day. jeb bush has the ability to talk to hispanic, more moderate, but i also wonder if you know, people will be a little tired of the bush dynasty come to 2016. >> well, they're too tired of it now, but 2016 is a few years away. thank you both for joining me tonight. >>> coming up, good news for democrats trying to keep control of the senate in 2014 and one republican whose strategy for dealing with latino
we should have a balanced approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy or hurt middle class families. glad to see if you have been reading the pains more and more republicans in congress are agreeing with this idea we should have a balanced approach. >>shepard: he referenced some in the g.o.p. who signal they could be willing to play bull. the republican leadership still is insisting they will not consider tax hikes. >> republicans are willing to put revenue on the table the it is time for the president and democrats to get serious on the spending problem our country has. >>shepard: president obama continues the p.r. blitz. later today he is scheduled to meet with big business leaders to discuss the proposed fix to the fiscal cliff. ed henry is live with us at the white house. what seem it is to be lost in this is the tax cuts going to expire. that's it. if they want to extend them on some, they can. but he will not allow it on people who make more. what part of this is confusing? >>reporter: a lot of other pieces that are confusing because no one wants to come to the
, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided government means that neither democrats nor republicans will be able to pass legislation along strictly partisan lines. we cannot tax our way back to budget surpluses and economic prosperity without major spending cuts and entitle 347b9 reforms we will continue running a huge deficit regardless of what anyone does on either side. for every dollar of revenue you give him, he'll give you $2.50 of spending cuts. if he gave you that on spending cuts, it would be 8$850 billon year would you do that? >> the president has said a lot of things, but what counts is what he's willing to put on the table and so far, he hasn't put
the type of serious deficit reform needed to bring down the $16 trillion debt? >> well, you know, i think anytime you're talking about a deficit, there's two ways to bring it down, and i know you know this well. you're either going to raise revenue or have cuts, and i would continue to argue for a balanced approach which means i do think you can find savings in both programs. but what i'm concerned about is what the real agenda is and the real agenda, in my opinion, is to end medicare. i mean, that was certainly a big item in the presidential debate is changing medicare into a voucher program. so what i don't believe in is changing the fundamental structure where we break the guarantee to seniors that we've had in our country for decades. that i disagree with. finding savings, there are certainly ways to do that in both programs, but neither one is going to balance or is going to address the deficit without clearly raising revenue. >> an interesting thing has developed among some of your fellow members in the house, democratic caucus, peter welch of vermont, if a deal is bad, that if it's
the bars below zero represent years when the deficit grew. these bars above zero represent years when the deficit shrunk. we're here right now in the deficit shrunk portion of the chart. the point of the shrinking on the whole chart back to 1950. when somebody stops inevitably matering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you can help with visual aids. we have posted both of those charts we just showed you on our blog and you can load them on your smartphone or ipad to pass around the table and print them out on paper in case your uncle doesn't look liking at these new things. those are waiting for you now. we are here for you. you can do this. report back and let us know how it went. that does it for us tonight. have a great thanksgiving. we'll see you monday. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell guest hosted by the spectacular ezra kline. good evening. >> good evening, rachel. i am glad to know other people bring charts to thanksgiving dinner. >> we're pr
. >> how do we move our country forward and reduce the deficit? by creating jobs and growing our economy, not by cutting programs that families rely on most. for working families it's all about putting americans back to work. not cutting the things we rely on most. >> there are signals they can't accept the kind of entitlement reforms in medicare and social security that senator graham is saying are prerequisite to a deal. >> let me tell you, first, george, and you know this, social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation. and we can do things and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives its solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. we want medicare to be there for today's seniors and tomorrow, as well. we don't want to go to the poll and voucherizing it and we can make meaningful reforms without compromising the integrity of the program, making sure that the beneficiaries are n
senator pat toomey from pennsylvania. he was a member of the deficit reduction super committee last year that failed to agree on a plan. but he's been talking about this issue for a long, long time. good morning, senator. >> good morning. >> we just learned that president obama will be traveling to your backyard on friday to talk about the fiscal cliff and spending, and traveling to pennsylvania right now. is this a welcome visit as far as you're earned? >> as far as i'm concerned the president of the united states is always welcome in my state of pennsylvania. we welcome the president and look forward to his message, and i have some questions i'd like to-ish i hope he addresses. >> what questions? >> first of all the president seems absolutely determined to inflict a tax increase on the american people. two years ago he signed a bill that extended the current tax rates for two more years because he said the last thing you want to do is raise taxes in a weak economy. today the economy is weaker than it was two years ago. why in the world does he want to inflict that damage now? >> senato
and be on the group with a group of bipartisan business leaders and deficit hawks getting something done, meeting with republicans and democrats. do you have any more optimism let me point out you and your pal erskine bowles, he was quoted as saying he's more pessimistic something will be accomplished. >> my poor dear partner, bloodied but unvowed, six months ago erskine was saying i think we can get there. now, he's pessimistic. would be a word. we were just with a group go big or go home, democrats and republicans alike, they've got signatures of over 200 -- 102 house members, half of the senate working for us, equally divided on both sides, you have to have something bipartisan. you can write it on a single sheet of paper if it had firewalls and triggers, and if it were just signed by an equal number of democrats and republicans, the markets would lay off of us. if they continue to see this dead-head struggling, the same old stuff, they're going to punish us. when they do the guy that will get hurt is the little guy, middle class, inflation, interest rates, that's who gets hammered. what an ir
. >> in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, the size of the federal budget deficit has received a lot of attention. but state and local governments are also dealing with massive deficits. each state has a slightly different story, but across the country, there is a common theme. in many state houses, expenditures are outpacing income, and public pension obligations are drastically underfunded. as we reported in december 2010, some believe a day of reckoning is at hand for many states that could require another big bailout package. >> the most alarming thing about the state issue is the level of complacency. >> meredith whitney is one of the most respected financial analysts on wall street. she made her reputation by warning that the big banks were in big trouble long before the 2008 collapse. now she's warning about a financial meltdown in state and local governments. >> it has tentacles as wide as anything i've seen. i think, next to housing, this is the single most important issue in the united states and certainly the largest threat to the u.s. economy. >> why aren't people paying
? >> this is a question of what is optional. i sat back and watched my country grow a huge deficit while i accumulated money that was handed to me while i had tax increases that i didn't ask for. so i want to see my class step up and do what it has the capacity to do. >> you may have a chance who knows. thank you. >> casey mulligan, thank you very much. now let's go to grover, he has never been more prominent. here is my question for you. the republican ares are taking about tax hikes. it doesn't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. that is bill crystal weekly standard. what is your take on the verbal time bomb? >> he focuses on other issues and has said before that he would leave the republican party and join the liberal hawks if the party was pro war in the past. i don't know how he gets plural on hawks. but the party is committed to low taxes and limited government and the people who aren't there can't call themselves republicans or conserve taticon. after this elicks grover, did people want to see common ground to deal with a fiscal cliff recession or trillion deficits
budget deficits could remove road blocks to growth. on the other hand, going over the cliff might mean a recession. on top of that, worries about a deal were already causing trouble. > uncertainty about how the fiscal cliff, the raising of the debt limit, and the longer-term budget situation will be addressed appears already to be affecting private spending and investment decisions, and may be contributing to an increased sense of caution in financial markets. >> susie: wall street and business leaders were pleased that bernanke was talking tough. and they said the fed's role in the fiscal cliff negotiations is to communicate. >> tell the world and the individuals in the political establishment that they have to help get their act together or we have a problem, and that notion of preaching from the pulpit that he has is very fundamental. >> susie: is there another role or more of a role for the fed? >> i think to be a cheerleader and to be on the sidelines telling the government they have to do what is right for the public. >> susie: as for what the fed can do if the u.s. heads into re
to the, you know, budget deficits and medicare, small enough it's somewhat of a side show. the idea that we're picking on themmen they're not getting the right deal, get out to the real world. >> steve. >> don't blame them, federal workers, this isn't their fault. yes, they're going to have give more. and in favor of union representation and union representation say hey, leave us alone, it's good for them, but overall, everybody's going to have to give, everybody. >> brenda: gary b. >> look, if it's the federal workers have it so bad, try to get a job in the federal sector, it's almost impossible these days, that's how bad it is. >> brenda: but, jonas, there have been layoffs from the federal sectors as well. >> they haven't had as hard as states. states had to get their budgets going tighter before the federal government. the federal government now is only starting to address the workers so i think that the state workers are taking it harder than the federal workers and now the federal workers have to join the misery of the state workers in tightening budgets. >> brenda: tough time
unemployment and minimal hope for its improvement and also for increases in the debt and deficit. his job lts wislation proposals are not being well-received by republicans. the administration has not propose any innovative resolutions for the severe downturn in housing. some believe he should have supported and promoted simpson-bowles deficit reduction proposal. he has not bmeetin rtele to significantly expand economic opportunity. how has obamaarased the tobsls leadership? he attempts to communicate his vision and proposal but he has appeared so often on television that overeublosure was occurrinr he is a capable public speaker but his speeches lack the spirit he showed during his first campaign. he seems to lacversthe coficunication skills of fdr, reagan or clinton. obama frequen-by comes across as a teacher or a motivator and not a motivator. he fails frequen-by to excite and motivate the broad public he must reach though he is not doing badly in the current campaign. there is a recent article in a sunday edition of the newshorves times entitled to obama plays to win in politics and every
spending and deficits which he says are urgent priorities. >> we're digging a hole very fast. and the first rule of getting out of holes is to stop digging. right now we're digging at the rate of about a trillion dollars a year. i think the economy is sort of waiting, this deficit is like a dark cloud over everything. >> reporter: king worries, though, that nothing will get done if the senate doesn't change its ways. he wants to change the rules on filibusters which allow a minority of senators to bring the senate floor to a halt. >> that was the central core of my campaign, that we have to be thinking with about and working on making the institution work, reaching decisions, compromising. >> reporter: you're going have to be a pretty strong suspension bridge if are you going to be a bridge between those two parties. >> i like the image of a bridge. >> reporter: a bridge he hopes will bring the senates two warring sides together. chip reid, brunswick, maine. >> glor: it is one of the country's most notorious criminal conviction. a new film examines the nightmare of the central park five nex
which means lowering tax rates not necessarily deficit reduction. it is the same policy romney had. it is where they were before the election. they gotta wake up and see the election, change things and they actually have to meet democrats somewhere in the middle. >> bill: i would hope. i would hope. new york times this morning, front page of the business section in terms of closing loopholes, romney was never specific about which one. new york times is saying that they know -- now we know one of the ones they're targeting. the headline is a tax break once sacred is now seen as vulnerable. what they're talking about is the mortgage interest deduction. there was no doubt it is on the table. it is one they're targeting rather than raise tax rates on the wealthy, they're going to either limit or get rid of the mortgage interest deduction. which is the most popular one. >> the most popular one. politically difficult i think. that's really the problem with romney's entire approach that said we'll just create revenue
interest deduction cap from a million dollars to $500,000 say it will help cut the deficit, keep interest rates low, and that could help the housing market all by itself. dean reynolds, cbs news, chicago. >> u.n. ambassador susan rice returns to capitol hill today her meeting with lawmakers yesterday to discuss her explanation of the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya didn't go over very well. she met with three republican senators strongly opposed to her possible nomination to be secretary of state. they were not satisfied with her explanation. >> all i can tell you is that the concerns that i have are greater today than they were before and we're not even close to getting the basic answer. >> following the benghazi attack rice said the assault grew out of a protest and not a terrorist attack. yesterday she said that was incorrect. that there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. >>> overseas now in egypt the largest crowd yet have turned out to demonstrate against president morsi's declaration of wide ranging new powers. hundreds of thousands of protesters in cairo's tahrir sq
as republicans have been trying to do since 2005 when we passed the deficit reduction act. >> let me jump to that, because part of the intriguing thing here is the fact that congressman cole, he is doing something that the president said, that post election news conference and that is, you know, extend the tax cut for everyone, but the wealthy, and then, you know, after you get that done, and i don't know if you would be going along with that, but nevertheless, you know, go ahead, talk about this long-term deal that would involve possible cuts as i think you're getting at, you know, cuts to programs like medicare. is that something we could see taking shape here? >> you're talking about getting rid of redundancies. great example, 342 economic development programs that are in the federal government system. let's start cleaning up these redundancies. let's do some of these across the board cuts in discretionary spending. let's make certain that medicare and social security, which are trust funds, not entitlements, they're trust funds, that they meet their obligation to our seniors and near seniors.
. >> as for the democrats, senator dick durbin says entitlement programs like medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations but insists social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things that i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing a willingness for reform, senator durbin ruled out raising the age for medicare eligibility. if lawmakers fail to act by january 1st, the american people will face roughly $600 billion in tax increases and spending cuts. >>> because he watches "morning joe" every weekday morning -- >> i don't think that's true. maybe. >> -- monday through friday, senator john mccain is taking our advice and softening his attacks on susan rice. after vowing to block her potential nomination as secretary of state. now, republicans are claiming the amb
that i think the democratic governing model is broken. we see with the debt and deficit -- the democratic party cannot go on this way. it is also going to have to accommodate itself to the physical reality, and i think that there is a lot the mainstream media that is focusing on republicans and tax rates. and what does the president have to do about spending? he's never been seous about cutting the deficit. is he really going to leave office with a 20 trillion-dollar debt? cheryl: if you look at this poll, and this is actually going to surprise you, when voters were asked, if the fiscal cliff heads, who do yo blame? obama. of course. 29%. >> that as president obama effectively we using the soap box. then i say this. if this was a referendum on higher tax rates, was a ballet on obamacare? the public is opposed to obamacare. is the president going to put obamacare on the table for spending cuts? they do have some principles to fight for and i think it would be a waste if they can act and caved in on everything. i think that the government needs more revenue. because of the recession, gover
the country, of course the loss of the stimulus money when i came in we had a big deficit we had to overcome. having to get deeper into that whole would not be good for the economy. liz: thank you for joining us rea.we like our governors of evy state. he is an independent. if so many defense jobs. our governors on the edge week. utah governor in another fox business exclusive. they have a very low unemployment rate unlike rhode island, but he says it will be impacted if d.c. cannot reach an greement. the closing bell ringing in about 47 minutes. would you do business in a dangerous area if you thought the risk might bring huge rewards? libya wants business in a huge way. we're not just talking about oil rigs and pipelines, but also massive infrastructure projects, roads, schools, you name it. part of the royal libyan family. he is back in his job is to sell libya on u.s. companies. find out what he thinks there is a big payoff for american businnss. a fox business exclusive. having you ship my gifts couldn't beasier. well, having a t olocations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles
this as a good step in the right direction. every cent down payment in the deficit and a huge change in the culture of spending. you are spending less money on this this year than last year. we have a long ways to go. we really do believe that the value of this republican majority will change this culture. we had the gephardt rule. no one would have to be seen voting for the budget resolution. we would do this in plain sight. >> the debate was long and it was not easy. and they have watched or wondered why congress to get the job done. this was a bipartisan compromise, it was not the right wing cut, and whatever it is over there. that was not a bipartisan and this is nothing that we could agree to in the short-term. it was really a disaster for america. this agreement cuts the deficit by $1 trillion. we look forward to the work on the committee to make sure that the millionaires and billionaires and people with those yachts will have tax benefits, but that is in the mix of thinking what is going on. mr. schumer will talk about this in a moment with the jobs agenda that we have. we wi
is on an unsustainable path. the budget deficit, which peaked in 2009, is expected to narrow further in the coming years as the economy continues to recover. however, the cbo projects that under a possible such a policy assumptions the deficit could still be greater than 4% of gdp in 2018, assuming the economy has returned to its potential by then. moreover, under the protection, the deficit and the ratio of federal debt to gdp would subsequently returned to an upward trend. we should all understand that long-term projections of ever increasing deficits will never accept underpass because the willingness of lenders to continue to fund the government can only be sustained by a responsible fiscal plans and actions. a credible framework to set a better fiscal policy, one in which the ratio of federal debt to gdp eventually stabilizes or declines, is urgently needed to maintain stability. even as policy-makers address the urgent issue of longer run out stability, they should not ignore a second key objective, to avoid unnecessarily adding to the head winds that are already holding back the economic recovery
deficits close to 4% to 5% over the next decade and that's cbo forecasts. if that occurs, you're talk about the debt getting more and more out of control. because the u.s. is the global reserve council, it's reliant on global reserve investment. >> just want to make sure that people have enough treasuries to trade. that's all it's about, charles. isn't that very generous? >> it is very generous. but left unaddressed, the fiscal problem is beginning to be a problem. but equally they don't want the full hit at this stage. so it is a matter of coming to some compromise, so you are going to have to see some kind of adjustment on the taxation side. that is what everyone is hopeful for. but it's still a political game. >> and we've been burned before. let's recap in the meantime a couple of developments in europe overnight. the european commission is expected to approve the restructuring plans of spags's na -- spain's national lenders today. a token price of -- yes -- one euro. the valencia-based lank was one of four to be nationalized in the past 12 months. and hundreds of greek workers marched
deficit right now. it is the bridge to renewable energy, renewable energy will take a long time. if we can move to gas we get tremendous benefits in terms of cleaner energy on the way to renewable energy future. if we could get those things done, steve, this would be transformational for our economy but we have not been able to act on these things even though i said earlier there is wide bipartisan -- >> thank you. let me just try to poke holes in this. if we rollback time to just before the financial crisis you look at the u.s. deposition. douglas holtz-eakin was out there talking about that already. and john mccain and others have been but it is much worse today but if you look at the deck in a different way, look at private sector debt, the fact, forget government debt. before the financial crisis private-sector debt was 160% of gdp in the united states and despite averaging, back to 160% of gdp we are still in crisis mode, you had structural corruption between regulators and financial institutions and any place in the economy and a private sector event that led to a government response
on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way, including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more so we can invest in training, education, science, and research. now, i know some of this may sound familiar to you because we talked a lot about this during the campaign. this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. this was a major debate in the presidential campaign and in congressional campaigns all across the country and a clear majority of americans, not just democrats but also a lot of republicans and a lot of independents agreed we should have a balanced approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy and doesn't hurt middle class families. and i'm glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. the senate's already passed a bill that keeps income taxes from going up
debtor deficit spending, or where spending cuts of any type might come or how we are going to address the larger issue: we all know that tax hikes on the rich ain't going to get it down. progressive groups reportedly held a private meeting with senior obama administration white house officials. according to the "washington post" the groups were told not to worry about any entitlement reforms or big budget cuts. the so-called safety net programs according to them are not going to be touched and the progressive groups walked away feeling very happy. the report say the white house feels it does not need to compromise, period and is willing to let the big tax hike happen on everybody. the big tax hike is what everybody will face not just the rich or the middle class. they think they'll be in a better position to negotiate with the g.o.p. after that happens. chris stirewalt joins me, host of power play on foxnews.com. >> i was a little frightened, i thought something i, really bad was happening instead of the standard badness. megyn: that is terrifying. [laughter] back down to business, t
.m. majority whip dick durbin will talk about the so-called fiscal cliff and deficit reduction at the center for american progress. fiscal cliff, a combination of those expiring tax provisions and budget cuts that could take place the beginning of the new you. they include the bush-era tax cuts and sequestration. live coverage starts at 1130 eastern also on c-span. we are likely to about the fiscal cliff during the senate session today getting underway at 10 a.m. eastern, just over a half hour from now. after the gavel and majority leader reid will be recognized to speak and will likely outlined the schedule for the day which could include debate on defense programs and policy, and possibly legislation to do with equal rights, people with disabilities. centers will us from 12:30-2:15 eastern for weeks the party meetings. live coverage of the senate and members gavel in right here on c-span2. right now some debate from the floor of the senate yesterday between majority leader reid and republican leader mitch mcconnell. d, w they talkede about potentialit't changes to filibuster rules. here's
in interest rates, $2.4 billion we take in. there's a $1.1 billion deficit. if that keeps up -- >> trillion. you're talking trillion-dollar deficits every year. >> if that keeps up, the spending goes to $6 billion. what we take in goes to $4.6 billion. you have a $1.4 billion deficit you're going to deal with in ten years with $1 trillion debt. interest payments you have to make every year. when you're making interest payments of $1 trillion a year, everybody is going to stop investing. germany isn't going to buy our bonds anymore. >> maybe they want this. it seems like both sides are digging in. the president says he wants $ .6 trillion in revenue. that means higher taxes as well as taking the loopholes away. maybe he wants to go over the cliff to prove a point. >> going over the cliff to prove a point is like wrecking your car to show that you can't drive. i mean, it doesn't make any sense. what makes sense is to be thoughtful. a democrats and a republican two years ago, simpson/bowles, got together and put together some guidelines that nobody paid any attention to. it had to do with heal
actually make the deficit picture look a lot worse over the next ten years. that's obviously, you know, that cuts against this narrative. on the other nd, there are a lot of things about the obama care law that are going to be fiscal problems. for example, the law treats people who are on the exchanges really differently from it treats people who get insurance through the employers. so there are aot of those things that probably should be fixed but aren't going to yield big savings in the short term. as a matter of deficit negotiations, i think boehner is not on strong footing. >> interesting. there are a lot of problems with obama care. i think obama would be the first person to acknowledge that. he didn't get a lot of things he wanted in there. but david frum, what is john boehner doing? what is he possibly trying to gain from this? >> okay, i'm going with your crazy luke a fox option. >> good. >> john baner is about to have to bring the more conservative part of his caucus, some very bad news. republicans don't have a wlost leverage. tax cuts expire whether without anybody doing any
. >> reporter: but raising taxes is only one-half of a deficit deal. republicans want democrats to raise the eligibility age for medicare. >> i want entitlement reforms. republicans put revenue on the table, democrats always promise to cut spending. i'm looking for more revenue for entitlement reform before the end of the year. >> reporter: so far democrats sound lex flexible. >> we've got to make sure there is seamless coverage of afordable health coverage for every american. my concern about raising the retirement age gaps in coverage or coverage that's way too expensive for seniors to purchase. >> reporter: there are many potential cliffs but higher taxes for structural changes for medicaid and medicare may be abong the biggest. bob corker argued for both warning everyone against punting this until next year or accepting phony savings that don't solve or at least address the underlying deficit and structural debt problems. charlie and norah? >> let me add my voice, congratulations you on this day enharnting one of the big jobs in journalism. they're big shoes
krugman sounded a different note today in the "times" and is talking about this idea that cutting deficits is a number one priority. he writes supposedly any day now investors will lose faith in america's ability to come to grips with its budgets failures. when they do there will be a run on treasury bonds, interest will spike and the u.s. economy will plunge back into recession. this sounds plausible to many people because it's roughly speaking what happened to greece but we're not greece. he's saying while this is a real dynamic for some countries, it is not because of the way we fund ourselves, is that right, ben? >> that's right. i would say morning munnize not actually by given name. >> i didn't know that. >> he's right, we're not greece, we're a much larger economy. we can grow our way out of debts and deficits. we've got a ginormous economy. we had a huge black friday weekend. probably $600 billion for the total shopping over the holidays. the question is, as we get close and getting into december, if it looks like talks are breaking down and we have the same old lines on no tax inc
to these problems and a recognition that a balanced approach to deficit reduction is the right approach. it's the one most beneficial for our economy. >> reporter: the president's trying to take advantage of that different tone. he talked to speaker boehner over the weekend by telephone. and today you've had two business leaders, john engler, tom donahue, in to meet with senior white house officials. they're trying to keep this going. aides on capitol hill tell me no substantive progress in negotiations just yet. they're just now getting back to work after thanksgiving. >> how does that make you feel about the market? does it make you feel like they have more kum-bi-ya going on in washington, d.c.? does it make you more willing to invest? >> i'll tell you what. i saw spielberg's "lincoln" over the weekend and it was incredible because it reminded me how nothing has changed on capitol hill. >> i agree with you 150%. >> in 150 years. >> don't you get tired of everybody saying, oh, washington is a mess right now. it's never been this bad. it's always been this bad. you see that in the movie. >
california owes an astounding $167 billion. and it's running an annual deficit of about 9 billion. money they that can never never be paid back. what is california getting for all of that? high school graduation rate 37 out of 50 states. per capita income, $44,500. but, there is a 10.1% unemployment rate. crime number one. there are more prisoners in california than any other state. take a look at texas. high school ranks 44th. slightly above california. per capita income about 40,000 bucks per year. but there is relatively low unemployment 6.6%. convicts in state prisoners ranked number two behind california. so you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. california has many more social welfare programs. golden state also has many more business regulations. texas, you could pretty much set up any bigness you want. you can also ride a motorcycle without a helmet. talk on the cell phone without a car and on and on. texans basically saying hey, government, get out of our lives. californians on the other hand generall
. it almost makes me upset. interest rates are going down because they can't get a hands l on the deficit because stocks are going down. that's the reality we're dealing with. consumer confidence this morning, listen, i'm worried about the fiscal cliff. i have my button on. anybody who tries to put words in the general public's mouth about the fiscal cliff, these confidence numbers dispel that notion that they're worried. they probably don't even really know the details. >> david kudlow, you are taking something of a risk-on strategy. you're going with the high-growth, high-dividend plays in this market, aren't you? >> yeah, we are. it's a strategy that's worked quite well p the uncertainty we've had over the fiscal cliff. with the positive economic data coming in, high-growth areas have done well for us. hi areas have helped diversify and steady the portfolio. >> you're not worried about impact that the fiscal cliff could have on the tax treatment of dividends out there? you get all these companies imposing early dividends, special dividends to try and slip it in before the end of the ye
to reduce the long-term deficit, that requires a combination of cuts. it also means asking high income individuals to pay a little bit more. that was a key issue in the campaign. all the exit polls show the american people are on the president's side. the only people who appear to be totally deaf to that are some of the congressional leaders in the republican house and senate. so i think it's important that the president get out and talk to the american people. this is part of the national conversation. this is a very important moment, and so it's important even as the president talks to congressional leaders and he had them down to the white house and continues to be in contact with them, he should engage the american public in this very important national conversation. >> let me ask you, you have a couple of senate republicans who have come out again grover norquist and any kind of notion of a pledge or being held to a lobbyist as opposed to the american people. on the left you have some progressives who are concerned that too many concessions will be made with social security, medic
and your party come to this debate with big deficit because you and president bush and dick cheney lied this country into war and you had a lot of lies on foreign policy about wmds. president bush even said once in may 2003 that we found the wmds in iraq. dick cheney and condoleezza rice talked about links to al qaeda in iraq. you've never made up for those huge, serious, significant lies in the arena of foreign policy. and now you're picking apart, you know, basically the very early and ultimately not misleading with regard to foreign policy decisions, statements that this diplomat made. >> one thing we're learning right now the meeting with ambassador rice and senator corker is happening as we speak so a little earlier than that noontime appointment. but the one thing we heard also from senator barrasso in the last hour was john considerry's name floated out and it would be easier for him to sail through. you had the opportunity to work with john kerry before. >> sure. >> when we hear about this, is that really what the game, as joy-ann said, this machiavellian game, basically let's g
plus dollars deficit. we need way more than these kind of things to fix this. we need to cut spending. that is what we need to do. this is the only way we will balance the budget. melissa: you make a point not everyone has made, just the impact of the stock market of what is going on. raising taxes on investment doesn't even hurt as much as just how much government spending is going on. >> i will try. this is the heart of economics. call it the cloud or the smart phone or the tablet, those technologies to throw out productivity efficiency. and the games society makes from these technologies, we get reinvested, sort of the savings we had from using a tractor on the farm, so the price of food goes down, the resources get redirected into something new like inventing an automobile, if the government steps in and spends that money, takes it away, taxes it and spends it, we don't get the full benefit of the technologies that we are inventing. that is why we have a percent unemployment rate, growing 2% today. if we had a smaller government, we should be growing faster and have more jobs and
figures shortly before the financial markets opened. last month's deficit came to about $6.7 billion. exports fell by 6.5% from a year earlier. that's in yen terms. japan's exports have fallen for five months in a row. cars and steal led the drop last month. imports also fell by 1.6% from a year earlier. now, by destination europe tumbled by 20% as the region's debt crisis continues to dampen demand. exports to china fell by over 11.5% and anti-japan sentiment dented demand for japanese goods. now let's get a check on the markets. on the tokyo foreign exchange, the dollar is gaining ground against the yen hitting the highest level in just about seven months. dollar yen is currently changing hands at 81.84 to 88 taking a look at the euro/yen, that is also at a six-month high. euro/yen 104.87 to 88. sources say many currency traders expect the bank of japan to deliver mormon tear easing because the central bank gave a cautious outlook for the japanese economy. let's get a check on stocks. japanese share prices are trading higher on the weaker yen this morning. the nikkei average curren
with a billion specified and the rest not and the 6 trillion-dollar deficit with the goal set up plus the one, 6 trillion-dollar tax increase or five particularly since the spending cuts have been agreed to by the democrats and obama included. he knows he is and for that and then the republicans offer to put them into subsequent savings from the budget control act. when they spent nine months discussion from simpson-bowles which is a tax increase and hints that the tax reform and its spending reform and when we finally went into the room to see what they came up with they didn't have legislative language that should have taken two weeks but they didn't have anything. they didn't have anything in nine months. why? because it isn't real. people say this imaginary agreement that isn't written down over the massive tax increase and the spending, simpson-bowles is a distraction from the fact that the two parties fundamentally disagree on the country, and this is where we have people who tell you why don't we have the good old days of bipartisan compromise telling you how old they are? because they ar
exports. trade balance in october marked the largest deficit on record for that month. >>> now let's take a look at how stocks are performing. tokyo share prices are recovering this thursday morning to the 9,300 level for the first time since early may. the key nikkei index at 9318. that's a gain of over 1% so far in the day. analysts say that market players are buying export-related shares as the yen weakens. investors have high hopes for an earnings recovery of exporters. an overnight rise on wall street, that also is helping push shares up here in tokyo. let's take a look at other markets that are open this hour. in south korea, the kospi is trading higher by almost .8%, currently 1898. let's take a look at australia. the benchmark index there is trading well over 1%. 1.3% at 4426. >>> ministers from japan and south korea are discussing a broad range of economic issues. japan apparently hopes that the two countries will reassert the imrtance of their economic ties and that's despite a souring in their political relations due to a territorial dispute. the working-level talks in seoul on
needs and deficit and my belief that the funding will come from muni operating money. worry now seeing that's the case, that muni is considering using some of this maintenance money for the free muni program rather than to invest in the system, purchase vehicles, rehabilitate vehicles, and over-wise make the system more reliable. once a free muni pilot program ends there will be enormous pressure to extend the program and that pressure almost certainly will include using more funding using to improve muni's reliant. >> vice president elsbernd: i need to interrupt. we have a overflow room that is open across the the hall in the board chambers. these first two items on muni's performance will take a good 45 minutes to at least an hour. there are folks who are standing, that are here to testify on these items. if you are not here for these items, but are on the other items, we would really appreciate it if you would let those, who are standing, whoer here to testify, have your seats. you can go in the other room. it's on tv. when this item is done you will be able to come back in. it woul
of sweden suggests teens and adults with attention deficit disorder are four more times likely than others to break the law and also found the use of adhd medication into adulthood might also help curb crime. >>> to sports we start with two nba games. lifting the hawks over washington, 101-100 and next, russ well westbrook had a fading jumper over chris paul. oklahoma city beat l.a. 117-111. >>> fourth ranked michigan made a second half come back at the nit semifinals. wolverines beat pittsburgh skaech-62, to advance for the championship game. a big nfl thanksgiving triple header today, come on, men, you know you're excited, starts with texans at the lions at 12:30 and redskins at downs at 425 and primetime matchup has the "new york times" jets at 8:20 on nbc. >>> your entertainment is straight ahead. on this thanksgiving, actor william shatner gets autotuned in this deep fried turkey from state farm. it's a little bizarre. take a listen. ♪ ♪ i want a deep fried turkey, a moister taking turkey ♪ ♪ blinded by my hung er i ignord safety ♪ ♪ spatula tasted science you're not flame
deficit that muni has been experiencing for many years and that's not necessarily fair and is based on an erroneous dichotomy, the case what ed risken was saying. we hope you can keep and open mind and invest in our youth by supporting this program. thank you. you. next speaker. i have a few more cards. i'm going to call them so i've called through all the cards. carl noe, jarron brown, paul slade, walter brown, amelia, and peter louderborn. those are the cards i have. thank you. >> good morning, government and audit oversight committee. waller james, here representing the central city srojp collaborative and all the sro collaboratives around the city and also power, and also mainly the youth. i just have a couple of points that i want to make and just give you guys a small personal story. i remember back in the day like in the 90's, living with my sister, or just being expose to do like children that are in the ghetto, different areas that might not have too much guidance, you wonders why they don't get up and go to school. some of it might be due3y%( &3çy some of it might be due
study out, sweden suggests that teens and adults with attention deficit disorder are four to seven times more likely that be others to break the law. the study published in the new england journal of medicine also found that the use of adhd medication into adulthood might also help curb crime. >>> markets left off on a high note before closing for today's holiday. the dow close at the 12,836 after gaining 48 points. the s&p was up three and the nasdaq added nine. >>> heading overseas now, the nikkei shot up 144 points, while the hang seng climbed 218. >>> hostess has made their last twinkies and loaves of wonder bread. the company whose products date back to the late 1800s has received permission to sell off its brands putting more than 18,000 workers in the unemployment line on thanksgiving eve. >>> on a brighter note, home improvement retailer lowe's handed out 22,000 thanksgiving dinners to new york and new jersey families impacted by hurricane sandy. meanwhile, demonstratored protested outside and inside a walmart in oakland, california. similar protests are planned at over 1,000 wal
to fully fund education. another term for this gap between the blue and orange lines is the deficit factor. it's a term in california school of finance. and that is now over 22%. so for every dollar of baseline revenues we should be receiving, we are receiving 78 cents of funding. and that is being scored and tabulated each year by the state. and it is hopefully going to be restored over time. but in the past six years we have been making do with the resources you see on this chart. >> just to clarify, that's the projected statutory cola, the difference between that and
-14 but it was different today in the turkey bowl. the mustangs were 10-1. the mission bears come back from a 14-0 deficit. when number 4 dives in for a touchdown, bears take a lead. the quarterback finds number 3, his big 60-yard play. sets up the touchdown plunge. 23 seconds left. mustangs score. that is it. from the mr. go to guy. they win the city section championship 22-21 over the mission bears. san jose bull dogs brought their undefeated record into the big bone game today at the san jose city college. san jose high, a ball just -- just sitting there. somebody pick it up. finally cruz. watch him down the field. across the field. 60 yards. down to the 5-yard line. lions beat the bull dogs 55-13. both schools finish with 9-1 records. dallas cowboys are the most recent believers in the new star power of rg3. washington spent thanksgiving in dallas today and robert griffin iii adds more big plays to his resume. a 60-yard touchdown. robert griffin iii completes 20- 28 passes. 4 touchdowns and a pick. washington scores 28 points in the 2nd quarter. this is rg3's pass to pierre garcon for another 59-yard
-0 deficit. 21-14 late in the game, but lincoln comes back to score the two-point conversion by tyree. 22-21! >> we worked hard from the beginning. all we did, all the fighting, we were torn. and it's great to happen! >> i'm very proud of this team. we've been through ups and downs, injuries all year. i love my team! >> last week, we said, hey, we're gonna eat some turkey. we're gonna be champions. >> who would have won? we would have never did it! >> right. all right. nfl, 49er business. quarterback alex smith practiced today. he reportedly has been medically cleared to play, but the team is denying it. so is it colin kaepernick at center in new orleans? jim harbaugh speaks tomorrow afternoon at niner headquarters. >>> hey, did you hear? it's thanksgiving! right place, right time, in the woodside high school. runs it back for a touchdown. he scored six in the last two games. 49-19. they get the best of the jets. >>> college basketball, cal up. richard solomon. no foul called. he gets teed up. moments later, mike montgomery gets up. bears trailed by as much as eight but they come on back.
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